A podcast where creative, interesting people interviewed about their experiences with marijuana.


A podcast where creative people talk about their experiences with marijuana.

Episode 26: Cannabis Bar Association co-founders Amanda Conley and Shabnam Malek

Amanda Conley and Shabnam Malek are Bay Area lawyers who co-founded the National Cannabis Bar Association. They also maintain their own practice, Brand & Branch LLP, which provides intellectual property services to cannabis businesses.

We talked about the importance of attorneys sharing notes across state lines, California's confusing legal history around medical and recreational legalization, and why first-hand experience can be important for lawyers who want to work within the industry.

Aaron Lammer
Episode 23: Tao Lin, novelist and poet

Tao Lin is is the author of the novel Taipei and a forthcoming book Beyond Existentialism about Terence McKenna and psychedelics. 

We talked about:

🌱 why Tao documents both his own thoughts and his caffeine and cannabis consumption in a giant .RTF document

🌱 having empathy for your parents

🌱  how pesticides block endocannabinoid receptors and steal humanity's natural stonedness

Aaron Lammer
Episode 19: Matt Haughey, founder of Metafilter, editorial at Slack

Matt Haughey never touched weed as a teen, despite being a competitive BMX rider in Southern California. He didn't smoke any weed in his 20s either, busy founding Metafilter one of the internet's first collections of "cool shit people find on the internet." By the time he was in 30s, Matt was curious to try marijuana but didn't know anyone who had any. Finally, a decade later, legalization came to the West Coast and he set off for Washington State to acquire some weed so he could smoke his first joint, age 42.

We talked about the lack of beginner's weed-smoking information on the internet, touring elementary schools and churches performing in a D.A.R.E. BMX show, and why he gave Metafilter away after 16 years.

Aaron Lammer
Episode 18: Samantha Miller, Chief Science Officer at HMBLDT

Samantha Miller does research that informs the formulation of the special vape pens that hmbldt makes branded not by strain but effect: sleep, bliss, calm, relief. Prior to becoming HMBLDT's in-house scientist, Miller founded Pure Analytics, one of the first cannabis testing labs in the country.

We talked about the value of anecdotal evidence in testing, getting feedback from a seniors group, and why she grew well before it became her job. 

Aaron Lammer
Episode 17: Cards Against Humanity co-founder Max Temkin and writers Joanna Feldman & Julia Weiss

Max Temkin is a co-founder of Cards Against Humanity, a "party game for horrible people," and Chicago comedians Joanna Feldman and Julia Weiss are its head writers. After a successful Kickstarter in 2011, Cards Against Humanity was released independently, reaching #1 in Amazon's Games section and spawning numerous expansion packs and copycats.

We discuss flying while stoned, what makes a card work in the Cards Against Humanity writers' room, and why Max was dreading coming on the show. 

Aaron Lammer
Episode 15: Benny Blanco, producer and songwriter


Benny Blanco has produced twenty-six #1 hits and his records have sold over 100 million copies (or so Wikipedia tells me.) His writing credits include Katy Perry's 'Teenage Dream,' Rihanna's 'Diamonds,' Justin Bieber's 'Love Yourself,' and Maroon 5's 'Moves Like Jagger.' He was nominated for the 2017 Producer of the Year Grammy.

Benny is only 29 and keeps a relatively low profile. We talked about growing up music-obsessed in suburban VA, why the secret sauce to the '90s hip-hop sound may have been "dogshit weed," and recording Ed Sheeran on a transcontinental cruise ship.

Aaron Lammer
Episode 11: Jake Lodwick, founder of Vimeo and Keezy

When he was in college, Jake Lodwick was brought on as one of the original developers  of CollegeHumor. Shortly thereafter he co-founded Vimeo and three years later he posted a photo of himself taking a bong hit after he was fired by Vimeo's new owners, IAC.

Jake's a pretty different person now, pouring his energy into a company that makes tactile and joyous music creation software. He's not totally comfortable with the internet he helped create, and had a lot to say about flow mindstates, the relationship between art and technology, and taking the long view.

Aaron Lammer
Episode 09: Francis Starlite from Francis and the Lights

Francis Starlite is behind Francis and the Lights, who in 2016 alone released the album Farewell, Starlite! and worked collaboratively with Bon Iver, Kanye WestThe Weeknd and Frank Ocean. He performed extensively with Chance the Rapper and last week released a video for a remix of his song 'May I Have This Dance' featuring Chance.

Francis and I have been friends since elementary school and have been writing songs together for the last 15 years. We talked about why Francis spent the majority of his life avoiding marijuana, what made him give it a try during a rut in his 30s, and the time he unexpectedly ended up  in a studio with Kanye West and Jay-Z.

Aaron Lammer
Episode 08: Alexandra Chasin, on her biography of America's first drug czar Harry J. Anslinger, who coined the term 'marijuana'

Alexandra Chasin is an associate professor at The New School. Her new book Assassin of Youth: A Kaleidoscopic History of Harry J. Anslinger's War on Drugs is a biography of America's first drug czar who popularized the term 'marijuana' and ushered in the Reefer Madness period of drug prohibition. A master propagandist prone to demonizing ethnic and immigrant groups, Anslinger's ideas laid the foundation for the modern drug war and brought awareness of cannabis to the American masses.

Alexandra and I talked about the Harrison Act, how America was scandalized by wild 'marijuana parties,' and the analogues between coming out as queer and coming out as a stoner.

Aaron Lammer
Episode 07: Bill Levin, founder of The First Church of Cannabis

In 2015 longtime activist Bill Levin founded the First Church of Cannabis in Indianapolis. He is currently suing for the right to use the "sacrament of cannabis" as part of his church's religious practice.

Despite being frequently written about online, the First Church of Cannabis has no website. I called the number listed on their Facebook page and a woman picked up. She gave me Bill Levin's cell number and I called him.

Aaron Lammer